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Instead, we have people too stubborn and uppity about athletic traditions and rivalries to think about the opportunities we are giving our students.
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Get over it people it's over. Don't blame the Board of Supervisors for this they just fund the money they don't close schools. Big Stone Gap can thank their School Board members, Ted Thompson and Betty Cornett for this.
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I would love to see a breakdown of which communities bring in what percentages of the county's tax revenue. The ones that bring in enough to fund their schools should get to keep them.
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They finally did the right thing. Sacrificing Sports Tradition for a better Opportunity of Education for our Children. Deal with it!
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Is it true that the left hand may know what the right hand is doing? What I mean is do they not have a person on the BOS that is a brother to a fellow on the School board? A husband on the BOS and his wife on the school board? It is hard for me to believe that talk does not go on behind close doors:rolleyes:
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Shooter
This guy just keeps on proving the point of how we get stuck with a crap idea.
This is not why we ALL lost our schools, Appy and Pound were gone...regardless. Do you not understand that? The fact you fail to realize, is if Appy, Pound and St. Paul would have got on board, using some common sense, long ago, then we would ALL have 3 new schools close to home by now, instead of this disaster waiting to happen 2-on-1 crap.
People still choose to ignore the fact that there has NEVER been enough funding for 3 new schools. Call it how you want, but the folks that didn't want to close Appy and Pound had nothing to do with the amount of cash available to build new schools. The 3-in-1 and 2-in-1 only came up after the BOS came up with what they would fund.
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Another thought- we really don't need more than 2 reps per school district, and the BOS should work the same. I hope some of them are ready to retiree.
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simple man
People still choose to ignore the fact that there has NEVER been enough funding for 3 new schools. Call it how you want, but the folks that didn't want to close Appy and Pound had nothing to do with the amount of cash available to build new schools. The 3-in-1 and 2-in-1 only came up after the BOS came up with what they would fund.
And a 2-on-2 would cost only 1 million bucks more than the 2-on-1.
So tell me what the advantage is of a 2-on-1 over a 2-on-2?
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Shooter
And a 2-on-2 would cost only 1 million bucks more than the 2-on-1.
So tell me what the advantage is of a 2-on-1 over a 2-on-2?
Read that again,- s-l-o-w-e-r. I didn't say anything about an "advantage". What it said was the funding has NEVER been approved for 2 schools on 2 sites. Sorta one of those simple facts, like, "Appy and Pound have already lost their schools". After the cash loss during the last couple of years, Wise can't really afford new schools. However, if the fine folks from BSG want to come up with an extra million in tax dollars , from their community, I'm all for you paying it.:lol:
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JJK guy
I would love to see a breakdown of which communities bring in what percentages of the county's tax revenue. The ones that bring in enough to fund their schools should get to keep them.
It wouldn't even be close, if we hadn't given away our coal severance tax. Appy and Pound bring far more.
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simple man
Read that again,- s-l-o-w-e-r. I didn't say anything about an "advantage". What it said was the funding has NEVER been approved for 2 schools on 2 sites. Sorta one of those simple facts, like, "Appy and Pound have already lost their schools". After the cash loss during the last couple of years, Wise can't really afford new schools. However, if the fine folks from BSG want to come up with an extra million in tax dollars , from their community, I'm all for you paying it.:lol:
If the BOS and SB went completely by whats financially best for the county...then Appy and Pound would be closing and that would be the end of it.
But we all know thats not whats best...don't we.
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Shooter
If the BOS and SB went completely by whats financially best for the county...then Appy and Pound would be closing and that would be the end of it.
But we all know thats not whats best...don't we.
Beats me- sounds a lot like "As long as BSG keeps a school, I'm good with whatever happens to anyone else". And remember, PV and JJK are as rundown as anyplace else. The classrooms are about 3/5 of the size needed for education today. That was the result of one of the many studies used as grounds for closing all schools and building new ones. Oh, and the heating and a/c - it isn't up to par with what folks want their kids in. Just updating JJK and PV heating/cooling systems would cost millions.
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am i seriously the only person from appalachia that wanted consolidation? i didnt want it like this but ****, just thinking of all the mess that will be cleared up by the time my little sister gets there is payment enough for me. I cant wait to see how much better these kids get to do than i did in school. I had to pay MECC for some of the classes that they will be getting for free (if everything works out, it wont be college credit of course but an intro class is better than nothing) I really dont want people having to drive up the four lane on those foggy days but oh well, something had to give eventually.
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do you think all this mess could be put into a movie and made into a comedy?
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simple man
It wouldn't even be close, if we hadn't given away our coal severance tax. Appy and Pound bring far more.
With the highest poverty rates, lowest income levels, and complete lack of commercial development, I would be surprised that these two communities lead in this area.
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With the highest poverty rates, lowest income levels, and complete lack of commercial development, I would be surprised that these two communities lead in this area.
re-read what he wrote please..... if we had kept our coal taxes we would be WAY ahead.
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Rocky
re-read what he wrote please..... if we had kept our coal taxes we would be WAY ahead.
In the town limits?
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Rocky
re-read what he wrote please..... if we had kept our coal taxes we would be WAY ahead.
I understand...my original point is this...
In 2010, if you look at the residents and the businesses who are responsible for generating tax revenue, which is what funds our schools, some communities contribute a lot more than others. Basically, in my opinion, communities should get what they pay for.
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Why is everyone so worried about the buses going up and down the four lane? The shop buses do it every day. The handicapped buses do it every day. I don't know of any accidents that have happened with buses since the four lane has been built. I would be a lot more concerened about my child riding the bus or driving between Appalachia and Norton and having to deal with all the coal trucks.
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luvthosevols
Why is everyone so worried about the buses going up and down the four lane? The shop buses do it every day. The handicapped buses do it every day. I don't know of any accidents that have happened with buses since the four lane has been built. I would be a lot more concerened about my child riding the bus or driving between Appalachia and Norton and having to deal with all the coal trucks.
I think it is kind of funny to since about half the time the extra drive comment is followed directly by there kids will be going to Lee/RC/GC instead like there is not extra drive time there
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luvthosevols
Why is everyone so worried about the buses going up and down the four lane? The shop buses do it every day. The handicapped buses do it every day. I don't know of any accidents that have happened with buses since the four lane has been built. I would be a lot more concerened about my child riding the bus or driving between Appalachia and Norton and having to deal with all the coal trucks.
no concern about driving on the old road either then, the appalachia students do that every day and i dont know of any accidents either.
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Counts
In the town limits?
I didn't think we were gonna exclude ALL the kids in the county that don't live in the town limits. When you would figure all the coal camps around Appalachia, you get quite a sum- but like several other things, we have let our "politicians" send the money elsewhere. The way some see this, only the Norton kids living in the city limits should even have a horse in any race, they are the only city system. Unless you count the fact that I may pay more in taxes than some else, and want to give me that benefit. Course, I might pay less than some folks- so I don't guess that line of thought goes anywhere.
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I traveled like 20 min to Burton from where I live my whole high school career and have been traveling to MECC since from here, all with not one problem.
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simple man
I didn't think we were gonna exclude ALL the kids in the county that don't live in the town limits. When you would figure all the coal camps around Appalachia, you get quite a sum- but like several other things, we have let our "politicians" send the money elsewhere. The way some see this, only the Norton kids living in the city limits should even have a horse in any race, they are the only city system. Unless you count the fact that I may pay more in taxes than some else, and want to give me that benefit. Course, I might pay less than some folks- so I don't guess that line of thought goes anywhere.
Wow I thought the Idea was to keep a school in the Appy Town limits many of those coal camps are just as close to BSG shouldent your coal tax idea preatty much split that money with BSG?
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Counts
Wow I thought the Idea was to keep a school in the Appy Town limits many of those coal camps are just as close to BSG shouldent your coal tax idea preatty much split that money with BSG?
I bet it takes you forever to go anywhere:D- you can't get to BSG from any of those camps without going thru Appy or Norton. The shortsighted part of your statment is that if the county kept that money, everybody could have a new school and not increase the other taxes.
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simple man
I bet it takes you forever to go anywhere:D- you can't get to BSG from any of those camps without going thru Appy or Norton. The shortsighted part of your statment is that if the county kept that money, everybody could have a new school and not increase the other taxes.
LOL yep all roads lead to Appy :)
IDK about short sighted would that be something like Pushing a plan that screws you more just so you can screw someone else at the same time?
As for the coal tax money if it is located in the county and not the town I am not sure where Appy has a "Dawg" in the fight
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Counts
LOL yep all roads lead to Appy :)
IDK about short sighted would that be something like Pushing a plan that screws you more just so you can screw someone else at the same time?
As for the coal tax money if it is located in the county and not the town I am not sure where Appy has a "Dawg" in the fight
So you think the folks in some parts of county shouldn't want a school? If you read what I said ,again, you will find I said "new schools for everybody" And if you will recall, this thread is more about the 2-in-1 than saving any one school. How would what I said be pushing a plan that screws everybody? And if things were done by districts, all parts of the county would stiil a voice.
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simple man
So you think the folks in some parts of county shouldn't want a school? If you read what I said ,again, you will find I said "new schools for everybody" And if you will recall, this thread is more about the 2-in-1 than saving any one school. How would what I said be pushing a plan that screws everybody? And if things were done by districts, all parts of the county would stiil a voice.
Did not say "you" just seems to be the impression most have of some BOS members vote
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I hate to be this guy but..... Lundsford gives people from Appy a bad name. I personally love Appalachia but people like him are why a lot of people could give two ****s about what happens to the place. He acts like a child....if he doesn't get his way he wants everyone to suffer. I hope if he gets his precious gym built it sinks in a huge sinkhole just before it's finished. Figured I would take a page from his book and act like a child too.
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Ie held my peace on this and dunno how common it is in BSG but with J.H. and Betty being married each other tell whats is going on and they make their phone calls to the boards for private talks. Anyway these two own a lot of property around PV high as a few years back i worked a summer for some friends who do home repairs and they sold Betty and JH 4-5 kitchens for houses they own around the high school, they at one delivery said they bought the land between the Valero and High school.
If thats the case you dont think they were all for consolodation at PV because they stood to male a profit if the conty schools had to buy their land, now that it changed what do they do swing 180 degrees because they wouldnt reap any profit from it.
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Wrong J.H. Rivers. His cousin own that property between the high school and Valero. Not J.H. and Betty. The one you are thinking about was the one who owned the pharmacy in Appalachia.